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Does it have pockets? Why women are demanding better pockets for equality and safety

Does it have pockets? Why women are demanding better pockets for equality and safety
GET OUT OF A PARTIAL BUILDING COLLAPSE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. MICHELLE: CALL IT THE POCKET PROBLEM. KELLY F.: IT’S AN ISSUE SO MANY WOMEN ARE HEAD UP -- FED UP WITH. NOW PITTSBURGH’S ACTION NEWS 4 REPORTER CHRIS LOVINGOOD IS FINDING OUT WHY DESIGNERS HAVE BEEN SKIPPING POCKETS FOR WOMEN AND WHY ONE AUTHOR IS CALLING IT A SAFETY ISSUE. CHRIS: CLOTHES COME IN ALL SORTS OF COLORS AND SHAPES AND SIZES AND STYLES TO APPEAL TO A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE, BUT THERE’S A GROUP OF WOMEN WHO SAY RIGHT NOW, THERE’S A BIG PROBLEM THAT HAS EXISTED FOR YEARS AND IT’S ALL IN YOUR JEANS, JEAN. >> LOOKS LIKE THAT DRESS HAS POCKETS. >> DURING ONE OF OUR WEEKEND MORNING SHOWS WE TALKED ABOUT A LOCAL FASHION DESIGNERS DEAL WITH MACY’S AND CURIOSITY WAS WOVEN, ON A CLOTHING CONUNDRUM. >> HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM IS IT FOR POCKETS NOT BEING IN WOMEN’S CLOTHING. >> THIS IS A MEN’S JACKET. >> WE NEED OUR POCKETS I’M AT WORK NOW AND I HAVE ON A DRESS, BUT I HAD TO PUT ON A BLAZER BECAUSE I HAVE NO POCKETS. >> I GO OUT ALL THE TIME AND I HAVE TO PUT THINGS IN MY BOYFRIENDS POCKETS >> I DON’T THINK IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO ME. >> NOTICE THAT BAG SHE WAS WEARING TO CARRY HER STUFF. TO LEARN WHY DESIGNERS DON’T ALWAYS PUT POCKETS ON WOMEN’S CLOTHING WE WENT TO AN EXPERT. I NOTICED, YOU HAVE YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS. >> YES. >> KIYA TOMLIN WAS THAT FASHION DESIGNER MENTIONED EARLIER. HER WORKSHOP AND STORE COMBO IN ETNA, HAS DRESSES, WITH NO SHORTAGE OF POCKETS. >> IF WE CAN PUT A POCKET IN IT, WE DO OUR BEST TO PUT A POCKET IN IT. >> WOMEN WANT FREEDOM OF HANDS THE LESS YOU HAVE TO CARRY, THE LESS FREEDOM YOU HAVE. >> TOMLIN SAYS WITH THE NUMB OF MEN DESIGNING CLOTHES, THAT COULD BE A POSSIBLE REASON BEHIND THE POCKET PROBLEM. >> THEY ARE THINKING MORE AESTHETICALLY INSTEAD OF FUNCTIONALLY AND WHEN YOU HAVE WOMEN DESIGNERS WE CAN DO BOTH. >> THERE’S DEFINITELY SOME TRUTH TO THAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER REASONS AS WELL. WE CAN’T BLAME IT ALL ON MALE DESIGNERS. >> THIS SPECIAL HIT -- FASHION HISTORIAN DR. KIMBERLY CHRISMAN-CAMPBELL ARGUES, WOMEN DESIGNERS CAN BE MORE BODY CONSCIOUS, AND THAT COULD MEAN MORE POCKETS, LOOKS LESS APPEALING. >> WOMEN HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN MORE ORNAMENTAL, THEY HAVEN’T HAD JOBS. THEY HAVEN’T NEEDED A LOT OF POCKETS. IF THEY WERE RICH, THEY MAYBE HAD SERVANTS TO CARRY WHAT THEY NEEDED. >> SHE SAYS WHEN SOME WOMEN DID WORK, THEY HAD POCKETS. >> WE’VE BEEN THE OPPRESSED MAJORITY HAVING NO POCKETS. >> THIS IS AUDREY GLICKMAN, A GUARDIAN OF THE GARMENT POCKET , A PROTECTOR, SO TO SPEAK. SHE WROTE A BOOK ON POCKET EQUALITY. EQUAL PAY, EQUAL RIGHTS, AND OTHER SOCIAL ISSUES GLICKMAN ARGUES POCKETS PLAY A ROLE. >> IT’S NOT ONLY THAT MEN PAY FOR THINGS AND THEY HAVE THEIR WALLETS IN THEIR POCKETS AND WOMEN SHOULDN’T HAVE THAT -- HAVE TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE THE MEN ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THEM THAT’S ALREADY SUBJUGATING , WOMEN. >> GLICKMAN SAYS IF WOMEN’S POCKETS AREN’T DEEP ENOUGH, THEY CAN’T EVEN KEEP A CELL PHONE IN THEM, WHICH IS WHAT SHE SAYS HAPPENED OCTOBER 27, 2018, INSIDE THE TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE, DURING A SHOOTING. >> THE PHONE WAS IN THE PURSE ON THE BENCH, THE SHOOTER WAS OVER THERE, THE PURSE WAS OVER THERE, THE DOOR WAS OVER THERE, AND I WENT THAT WAY. THE MEN HAD THEIR PHONES ON THEIR BODIES. I WASN’T THE ONLY WOMAN WHO DIDN’T HAVE HER PHONE BECAUSE THE PURSE GOT STUCK IN THE CRIME SCENE. >> SHE SAYS WHEN FRIENDS COULDN’T GET A HOLD OF HER, THEY THOUGHT SHE DIED. WHAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK IS A SMALL PROBLEM, IS A BIG CONCERN FOR HER. >> I KNOW THIS ISN’T THE BIGGEST PROBLEM CONFRONTING HUMANITY RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO MANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS CHRIS: THE WOMEN IN THIS STORY AND WOMEN I REACHED OUT TO WHO DID NOT APPEAR IN THE STORY TOLD IN THE STORY TOLD ME THE SAME THING. THEY DON’T WANT FASHION DESIGNER TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. THEY WANT THEM TO CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF WOMEN AND ADD MORE POCKETS. CHRIS LOVINGOOD, PITTSBURGH’S ACTION NEWS 4. KELLY F.: I LOVE THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF ALL OF THAT. I DO TEND TO FIND GARMENTS MORE AND MORE OF THEM HAVE POCKETS IN THEM. MICHELLE: IT’S SLOW. ASHLEY: I’M THINKING -- MICHELLE: I’M THINKING ABOUT THE CONVENIENCE FOR ME BUT THE SAFETY ASPECT IS NEW. ASHLEY: THE PROBLEM IS THEY MAKE THE FAKE POCKETS AND A LOT OF WOMEN’S JEANS. KELLY F.: IT’S ALL ABOUT TECH PANTS NOW
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Does it have pockets? Why women are demanding better pockets for equality and safety
Clothes come in all sorts of colors and shapes and sizes and styles to appeal to a multitude of people, but there's a group of women who say, right now, there's a big problem that's persisted for years: a lack of pockets.This story started during a weekend morning news show on Pittsburgh sister station WTAE. They were talking about a local fashion designer's new deal with Macy's, and from that point, curiosity was woven on a clothing conundrum.Then reporters went around downtown Pittsburgh asking women if a lack of pockets was an actual problem, and not just a running joke.This is a men's jacket, said Amber Lasure, as she flourished her jacket's inside pockets. "You guys have pockets everywhere!" said Christina Boroa. "You've have pockets on your sides, pockets in the back, and then pockets inside of that pocket on the side and then a pocket in the side of the pocket on top of the pocket. That's too many pockets for you guys!" "I go out all the time and I have to put things in my boyfriend's pockets!" said Kelcie Bartek. "I don't think it makes a difference to me," said Julia Alvarado, who noted she travels on public transportation constantly, and so she keeps multiple bags with her.To learn why designers don't always put pockets on women's clothing, we went to local fashion designer Kiya Tomlin, the designer mentioned earlier.We met with Tomlin in her workshop/store combo in Etna, Pennsylvania. It's filled with fabrics, design patterns, hardworking women and dresses with no shortage of pockets.When we first started talking, we notice Tomlin's physical stance while chatting and wearing one her her dresses: She had her hands in her pockets."If we can put a pocket in it, we do our best to put a pocket in it," said Tomlin. "Women want freedom of hands, and I think this goes something to the more. The less you have to carry, the more freedom you have."Tomlin said she believes with the number of men designing clothes, that could be a possible reason behind the pocket problem."They are thinking more aesthetically instead of functionally, and when you have women designers, we can do both," said Tomlin.But not everyone agrees wholeheartedly with Tomlin's point, including fashion historian Dr. Kimberly Chrisman-Campbell."There's definitely some truth to that," said Chrisman-Campbell, "but there are some other reasons as well. We can't blame it all on male designers."Chrisman-Campbell argues women designers tend to be more body conscious and that could mean there's no room for pockets on some clothes. "Women have historically been more ornamental, they haven't had jobs," said Chrisman-Campbell. "They haven't needed a lot of pockets. If they were rich, they maybe had servants to carry what they needed, or their husbands would have 12 pockets and they would have none."She says when some women did work, they had pockets. Eventually, handbags and purses would become fashionable, but women such as Audrey Glickman question: Why have a purse when your clothes have space for pockets?"We've been the oppressed majority having no pockets!" said Glickman.Glickman is a guardian of the garment; a "pocket protector" so to speak.She reached out to WTAE after the pocket comment on our show and encouraged reporter Chris Lovingood to read the book she wrote on pocket equality, so he did.Equal pay, equal rights and other social issues, Glickman argues pockets play a role."It's not only that men pay for things and they have their wallets in their pockets and women shouldn't have that because the men are going to pay for them and that's already subjugating women," said Glickman.Plus, she says women put stuff, their keys and money in their pockets, too; however, if those pockets aren't deep enough, they can't keep cell phones in them.On Oct. 27, 2018, inside the Tree of Life Synagogue, Glickman needed her phone, but it wouldn't fit in her pocket. A shooter killed 11 people inside the synagogue that day."The phone was in the purse on the bench," said Glickman. "The shooter was over there, the purse was over there, the door was over there, and I went that way. The men had their phones on their bodies. I wasn't the only woman who didn't have her phone because the purse got stuck in the crime scene." She said when friends couldn't get ahold of her they thought she died.Glickman says if her pockets had been deep enough, she knows her phone would have been in it."If everyone is carrying a phone, there's no reason we can't have a place for our phones in our clothing. I know this isn't the biggest problem confronting humanity right now, but it is a contributing factor to many of those problems."The women interviewed for this story and even those who didn't appear mostly said the same thing: Fashion designers don't have to reinvent the wheel. Women just want more and deeper pockets.

Clothes come in all sorts of colors and shapes and sizes and styles to appeal to a multitude of people, but there's a group of women who say, right now, there's a big problem that's persisted for years: a lack of pockets.

This story started during a weekend morning news show on Pittsburgh sister station WTAE. They were talking about a local fashion designer's new deal with Macy's, and from that point, curiosity was woven on a clothing conundrum.

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Then reporters went around downtown Pittsburgh asking women if a lack of pockets was an actual problem, and not just a running joke.

This is a men's jacket, said Amber Lasure, as she flourished her jacket's inside pockets.

"You guys have pockets everywhere!" said Christina Boroa. "You've have pockets on your sides, pockets in the back, and then pockets inside of that pocket on the side and then a pocket in the side of the pocket on top of the pocket. That's too many pockets for you guys!"

"I go out all the time and I have to put things in my boyfriend's pockets!" said Kelcie Bartek.

"I don't think it makes a difference to me," said Julia Alvarado, who noted she travels on public transportation constantly, and so she keeps multiple bags with her.

To learn why designers don't always put pockets on women's clothing, we went to local fashion designer Kiya Tomlin, the designer mentioned earlier.

We met with Tomlin in her workshop/store combo in Etna, Pennsylvania. It's filled with fabrics, design patterns, hardworking women and dresses with no shortage of pockets.

When we first started talking, we notice Tomlin's physical stance while chatting and wearing one her her dresses: She had her hands in her pockets.

"If we can put a pocket in it, we do our best to put a pocket in it," said Tomlin. "Women want freedom of hands, and I think this goes something to the more. The less you have to carry, the more freedom you have."

Tomlin said she believes with the number of men designing clothes, that could be a possible reason behind the pocket problem.

"They are thinking more aesthetically instead of functionally, and when you have women designers, we can do both," said Tomlin.

But not everyone agrees wholeheartedly with Tomlin's point, including fashion historian Dr. Kimberly Chrisman-Campbell.

"There's definitely some truth to that," said Chrisman-Campbell, "but there are some other reasons as well. We can't blame it all on male designers."

Chrisman-Campbell argues women designers tend to be more body conscious and that could mean there's no room for pockets on some clothes.

"Women have historically been more ornamental, they haven't had jobs," said Chrisman-Campbell. "They haven't needed a lot of pockets. If they were rich, they maybe had servants to carry what they needed, or their husbands would have 12 pockets and they would have none."

She says when some women did work, they had pockets. Eventually, handbags and purses would become fashionable, but women such as Audrey Glickman question: Why have a purse when your clothes have space for pockets?

"We've been the oppressed majority having no pockets!" said Glickman.

Glickman is a guardian of the garment; a "pocket protector" so to speak.

She reached out to WTAE after the pocket comment on our show and encouraged reporter Chris Lovingood to read the book she wrote on pocket equality, so he did.

Equal pay, equal rights and other social issues, Glickman argues pockets play a role.

"It's not only that men pay for things and they have their wallets in their pockets and women shouldn't have that because the men are going to pay for them and that's already subjugating women," said Glickman.

Plus, she says women put stuff, their keys and money in their pockets, too; however, if those pockets aren't deep enough, they can't keep cell phones in them.

On Oct. 27, 2018, inside the Tree of Life Synagogue, Glickman needed her phone, but it wouldn't fit in her pocket. A shooter killed 11 people inside the synagogue that day.

"The phone was in the purse on the bench," said Glickman. "The shooter was over there, the purse was over there, the door was over there, and I went that way. The men had their phones on their bodies. I wasn't the only woman who didn't have her phone because the purse got stuck in the crime scene."

She said when friends couldn't get ahold of her they thought she died.

Glickman says if her pockets had been deep enough, she knows her phone would have been in it.

"If everyone is carrying a phone, there's no reason we can't have a place for our phones in our clothing. I know this isn't the biggest problem confronting humanity right now, but it is a contributing factor to many of those problems."

The women interviewed for this story and even those who didn't appear mostly said the same thing: Fashion designers don't have to reinvent the wheel. Women just want more and deeper pockets.